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		<title>By: Time for UU blog award nominations&#187; Making Chutney</title>
		<link>http://www.makingchutney.com/2007/03/28/11-things-ive-learned-since-being-diagnosed-with-bipolar/#comment-14807</link>
		<dc:creator>Time for UU blog award nominations&#187; Making Chutney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 12 Things I&#8217;ve Learned Since Being Diagnosed with Bipolar. Let the record show I was bipolar before it was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 12 Things I&#8217;ve Learned Since Being Diagnosed with Bipolar. Let the record show I was bipolar before it was [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: prepagate</title>
		<link>http://www.makingchutney.com/2007/03/28/11-things-ive-learned-since-being-diagnosed-with-bipolar/#comment-12779</link>
		<dc:creator>prepagate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughter has bipolar and is going through a rough divorce and custody fight with her husband and his mother. They were together for three years and have 2 boys who are now 3. I need to know how do you help someone when there are so many people trying to ruin the person with bipolar? They know she has bipolar and they also so stress is one of the worst things for it but they contiue to POUR it on. They are literally trying to ruin her life, break her down and take her children away. You can only be so strong before something breaks. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to help with this situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter has bipolar and is going through a rough divorce and custody fight with her husband and his mother. They were together for three years and have 2 boys who are now 3. I need to know how do you help someone when there are so many people trying to ruin the person with bipolar? They know she has bipolar and they also so stress is one of the worst things for it but they contiue to POUR it on. They are literally trying to ruin her life, break her down and take her children away. You can only be so strong before something breaks. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to help with this situation?</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
		<link>http://www.makingchutney.com/2007/03/28/11-things-ive-learned-since-being-diagnosed-with-bipolar/#comment-10512</link>
		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thankyou very much! im hopefully gettin a cpoy of "an unquiert mind" which iv head may be helpful..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thankyou very much! im hopefully gettin a cpoy of &#8220;an unquiert mind&#8221; which iv head may be helpful..</p>
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		<title>By: aspyre</title>
		<link>http://www.makingchutney.com/2007/03/28/11-things-ive-learned-since-being-diagnosed-with-bipolar/#comment-10491</link>
		<dc:creator>aspyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 05:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a paper on this for my abnormal psych class.  ;)  A book I often referenced &#38; recommend on the subject is: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Fire-Manic-Depressive-Artistic-Temperament/dp/068483183X"&gt;Touched by Fire&lt;/a&gt;.  Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a paper on this for my abnormal psych class.  ;)  A book I often referenced &amp; recommend on the subject is: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Fire-Manic-Depressive-Artistic-Temperament/dp/068483183X">Touched by Fire</a>.  Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
		<link>http://www.makingchutney.com/2007/03/28/11-things-ive-learned-since-being-diagnosed-with-bipolar/#comment-10469</link>
		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 11:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, this was a veru interesting read. Im currently researching into to link/possible link between bipolar and creativity. 

I find the fact that the characteristics of the manic and depressive phase of the disorder are simular to those of a Creative person very interesting.
The question I am aiming to answer is, "when does creativity become a disorder?"
There seems to be a blurred line regarding this. 
Does the disorder control creativity, or creativity control the disorder?
In the sense that, is it because of the disorder the person is creative, (or has heightened creativity), or that because of creativity that the person may have the disorder?

Through my research i found this information...

the manic phadse of bipolar disorder is characterised by emotions and behaviours that parallel the creative process, these include:

- original thinking
- heightened sensativity
- increased drive and productivity
- increased fluidity, fluency and frequency of thoughts
- thedency to use rhymes, idiosyncratics and alliteration
- sharp focus
- intensity
- ability to function on limited sleep
- increased quality and quantity of word usage
- extreme anxiety
-psychosis

I found this interesting, if any one has any comments they wish to make regarding this, i would be very interested to hear them...

thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, this was a veru interesting read. Im currently researching into to link/possible link between bipolar and creativity. </p>
<p>I find the fact that the characteristics of the manic and depressive phase of the disorder are simular to those of a Creative person very interesting.<br />
The question I am aiming to answer is, &#8220;when does creativity become a disorder?&#8221;<br />
There seems to be a blurred line regarding this.<br />
Does the disorder control creativity, or creativity control the disorder?<br />
In the sense that, is it because of the disorder the person is creative, (or has heightened creativity), or that because of creativity that the person may have the disorder?</p>
<p>Through my research i found this information&#8230;</p>
<p>the manic phadse of bipolar disorder is characterised by emotions and behaviours that parallel the creative process, these include:</p>
<p>- original thinking<br />
- heightened sensativity<br />
- increased drive and productivity<br />
- increased fluidity, fluency and frequency of thoughts<br />
- thedency to use rhymes, idiosyncratics and alliteration<br />
- sharp focus<br />
- intensity<br />
- ability to function on limited sleep<br />
- increased quality and quantity of word usage<br />
- extreme anxiety<br />
-psychosis</p>
<p>I found this interesting, if any one has any comments they wish to make regarding this, i would be very interested to hear them&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: chutney</title>
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		<dc:creator>chutney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 02:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gillian, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Paul was bipolar.  He was at least moodier than your average apostle.  

That might be a fun project.  Find the bipolars in the bible.  There probably enough info there---there's the requisite disclaimer about not diagnosing from a distance---but fun all the same.  

King Saul, anyone?  Elijah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gillian, you know, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if Paul was bipolar.  He was at least moodier than your average apostle.  </p>
<p>That might be a fun project.  Find the bipolars in the bible.  There probably enough info there&#8212;there&#8217;s the requisite disclaimer about not diagnosing from a distance&#8212;but fun all the same.  </p>
<p>King Saul, anyone?  Elijah?</p>
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		<title>By: chutney</title>
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		<dc:creator>chutney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 02:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrea, no, the problem with exercise is that you have to exercise to do it.  ;-)  I eat organic about half the time today, but I wouldn't say it's made a big difference mental health wise.  

Sleep, however, makes all the difference in the world.  If I don't get those two hours of missed sleep back the next night, watch out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea, no, the problem with exercise is that you have to exercise to do it.  ;-)  I eat organic about half the time today, but I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s made a big difference mental health wise.  </p>
<p>Sleep, however, makes all the difference in the world.  If I don&#8217;t get those two hours of missed sleep back the next night, watch out.</p>
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		<title>By: gillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>gillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've wandered into this discussion trying to look up the words of a passage from Paul somewhere (a friend from Martinique just mailed me a 19th century print of slaves and said "Why is life so bloody unfair?" well, rather a big subject for parentheses) BUT.. 

I really like the 12 points list - I got diagnosed Bi-polar type 2 when I was 40 in 2000 after many years of Helter Skelter. Re. the fundamentalist camp and its highs, it would be sad if it put you off Christian "highs" forever; no one can stay on the mountain all the time but I do like to go there at times. I got born again in 1993 and I've been through plenty of history since then but I'm here thanks to God. 

Finally, really liked what you said about hypomania seeming to be "normal" and happy but actually being hypomanic.. greetings and blessings Gillian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve wandered into this discussion trying to look up the words of a passage from Paul somewhere (a friend from Martinique just mailed me a 19th century print of slaves and said &#8220;Why is life so bloody unfair?&#8221; well, rather a big subject for parentheses) BUT.. </p>
<p>I really like the 12 points list - I got diagnosed Bi-polar type 2 when I was 40 in 2000 after many years of Helter Skelter. Re. the fundamentalist camp and its highs, it would be sad if it put you off Christian &#8220;highs&#8221; forever; no one can stay on the mountain all the time but I do like to go there at times. I got born again in 1993 and I&#8217;ve been through plenty of history since then but I&#8217;m here thanks to God. </p>
<p>Finally, really liked what you said about hypomania seeming to be &#8220;normal&#8221; and happy but actually being hypomanic.. greetings and blessings Gillian</p>
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		<title>By: aspyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>aspyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 04:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I wandered over from Will's link.  I've been living with cyclothymia, unmedicated, for about 13 years now.  Your post elucidated a number of issues for me, the memory thing being key.  Another observation, is that bipolarity tends to create extreme ideas of guilt &#38; evil, with the need for a complete absolution such as dispensational salvation.  I've found Orthodoxy to be a more balanced faith.

Did you ever experiment with diet, exercise, or alternate therapy methods prior to medication?  When I'm following a vegetarian diet, avoiding alcohol &#38; hormones in foods, and regularly dancing, my lapses into extremity are much more infrequent &#38; easily recovered.  A structured home &#38; work environment, even regular mealtimes, have also been known to help.

God Bless, and good luck.

Andrea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I wandered over from Will&#8217;s link.  I&#8217;ve been living with cyclothymia, unmedicated, for about 13 years now.  Your post elucidated a number of issues for me, the memory thing being key.  Another observation, is that bipolarity tends to create extreme ideas of guilt &amp; evil, with the need for a complete absolution such as dispensational salvation.  I&#8217;ve found Orthodoxy to be a more balanced faith.</p>
<p>Did you ever experiment with diet, exercise, or alternate therapy methods prior to medication?  When I&#8217;m following a vegetarian diet, avoiding alcohol &amp; hormones in foods, and regularly dancing, my lapses into extremity are much more infrequent &amp; easily recovered.  A structured home &amp; work environment, even regular mealtimes, have also been known to help.</p>
<p>God Bless, and good luck.</p>
<p>Andrea</p>
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		<title>By: chutney</title>
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		<dc:creator>chutney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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