Comments on: We already have what we need (Part three in ubuntu series) http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/ One part facial hair. Two parts moxy. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:46:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Any way we can at Making Chutney http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4762 Any way we can at Making Chutney Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:48:33 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4762 [...] So if ubuntu is so damn important—maybe even all we really need—how do we do it? Short answer: any way we can. [...] […] So if ubuntu is so damn important—maybe even all we really need—how do we do it? Short answer: any way we can. […]

]]> By: h sofia http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4428 h sofia Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:27:07 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4428 Very, very interesting series. Good stuff, MC. Very, very interesting series. Good stuff, MC.

]]> By: UU Soul http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4421 UU Soul Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:02:58 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4421 For me, our first principle is an example of our good news. That we are all inherently good, as opposed to being born sinners. Every time I hear that discordant message from other churches I am grateful for a religious home that says that we may falter, but we are essentially good. I think that is a so much healthier and uplifting message. I think it is more compatible with ubuntu, as well. For me, our first principle is an example of our good news. That we are all inherently good, as opposed to being born sinners. Every time I hear that discordant message from other churches I am grateful for a religious home that says that we may falter, but we are essentially good. I think that is a so much healthier and uplifting message. I think it is more compatible with ubuntu, as well.

]]> By: chutney http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4413 chutney Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:11:36 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4413 What's wrong with good news? Isn't it still good news when we're the ones making it? What’s wrong with good news? Isn’t it still good news when we’re the ones making it?

]]> By: Bill Baar http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4412 Bill Baar Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:34:09 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4412 I always thought UUism had more of a message for how to live when there is no good news. Maybe that answer is Ubuntu, but I think it might be qualified with the absense of good news. The only news is what we make. I always thought UUism had more of a message for how to live when there is no good news. Maybe that answer is Ubuntu, but I think it might be qualified with the absense of good news. The only news is what we make.

]]> By: chutney http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4399 chutney Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:04:26 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4399 Kevin---Esperanto ubuntu. I'll have to chew on that some more. Let's hope it's more successful than Esperanto though! I agree that the world doesn't need to be UU. But we should be able to make a convincing case---to ourselves and to others---that UUism is a great place to be if you're on the road to ubuntu. And duly noted on the tag. Does it come from someplace in particular? ck---Excellent thought. I see some good connections to the synoptic Jesus there. Kevin—Esperanto ubuntu. I’ll have to chew on that some more. Let’s hope it’s more successful than Esperanto though!

I agree that the world doesn’t need to be UU. But we should be able to make a convincing case—to ourselves and to others—that UUism is a great place to be if you’re on the road to ubuntu.

And duly noted on the tag. Does it come from someplace in particular?

ck—Excellent thought. I see some good connections to the synoptic Jesus there.

]]> By: ck http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4391 ck Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:29:32 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4391 "..when god-talk becomes a distraction from realizing our need for the person in front of us, it should be put aside." Yes. Even further, if god-talk isn't a motivation to realize our need for the person in front of us, then we probably should question whether it <i>is</i> god-talk at all. “..when god-talk becomes a distraction from realizing our need for the person in front of us, it should be put aside.”

Yes. Even further, if god-talk isn’t a motivation to realize our need for the person in front of us, then we probably should question whether it is god-talk at all.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4389 Kevin Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:33:26 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/15/we-already-have-what-we-need/#comment-4389 On an unrelated note: I think you should add the phrase--"I want to believe you" across the top--the menu bar that changes with every visit. Regarding this post: the question of course is what sort of language works best for what sort of people? UUism is a pretty heady concept for most average ordinary folks to grasp. That's part of the problem. I do tend to frame my conception of it in terms of Providence and Karma. I don't think the world should be UU--I think the faith appeals to a certain type of person. But I do think we can all work towards ubuntu in our own way through our own faith tradition. Perhaps we need a sort of common language--a sort of esperanto ubuntu? On an unrelated note: I think you should add the phrase–”I want to believe you” across the top–the menu bar that changes with every visit.

Regarding this post: the question of course is what sort of language works best for what sort of people? UUism is a pretty heady concept for most average ordinary folks to grasp. That’s part of the problem.

I do tend to frame my conception of it in terms of Providence and Karma. I don’t think the world should be UU–I think the faith appeals to a certain type of person. But I do think we can all work towards ubuntu in our own way through our own faith tradition. Perhaps we need a sort of common language–a sort of esperanto ubuntu?

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