Comments on: We already have what we need (Part three in ubuntu series)

By: Any way we can at Making Chutney

Any way we can at Making Chutney — Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:48:33 +0000

[…] So if ubuntu is so damn important—maybe even all we really need—how do we do it? Short answer: any way we can. […]

By: h sofia

h sofia — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:27:07 +0000

Very, very interesting series. Good stuff, MC.

By: UU Soul

UU Soul — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:02:58 +0000

For me, our first principle is an example of our good news. That we are all inherently good, as opposed to being born sinners. Every time I hear that discordant message from other churches I am grateful for a religious home that says that we may falter, but we are essentially good. I think that is a so much healthier and uplifting message. I think it is more compatible with ubuntu, as well.

By: chutney

chutney — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:11:36 +0000

What’s wrong with good news? Isn’t it still good news when we’re the ones making it?

By: Bill Baar

Bill Baar — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:34:09 +0000

I always thought UUism had more of a message for how to live when there is no good news. Maybe that answer is Ubuntu, but I think it might be qualified with the absense of good news. The only news is what we make.

By: chutney

chutney — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:04:26 +0000

Kevin—Esperanto ubuntu. I’ll have to chew on that some more. Let’s hope it’s more successful than Esperanto though!

I agree that the world doesn’t need to be UU. But we should be able to make a convincing case—to ourselves and to others—that UUism is a great place to be if you’re on the road to ubuntu.

And duly noted on the tag. Does it come from someplace in particular?

ck—Excellent thought. I see some good connections to the synoptic Jesus there.

By: ck

ck — Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:29:32 +0000

“..when god-talk becomes a distraction from realizing our need for the person in front of us, it should be put aside.”

Yes. Even further, if god-talk isn’t a motivation to realize our need for the person in front of us, then we probably should question whether it is god-talk at all.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:33:26 +0000

On an unrelated note: I think you should add the phrase–“I want to believe you” across the top–the menu bar that changes with every visit.

Regarding this post: the question of course is what sort of language works best for what sort of people? UUism is a pretty heady concept for most average ordinary folks to grasp. That’s part of the problem.

I do tend to frame my conception of it in terms of Providence and Karma. I don’t think the world should be UU–I think the faith appeals to a certain type of person. But I do think we can all work towards ubuntu in our own way through our own faith tradition. Perhaps we need a sort of common language–a sort of esperanto ubuntu?