Comments on: Becoming the people the world needs (Part one in ubuntu series) http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/ One part facial hair. Two parts moxy. Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:50:22 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Seven attitudes that prevent ubuntu (part 6 in ubuntu series) at Making Chutney http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4903 Seven attitudes that prevent ubuntu (part 6 in ubuntu series) at Making Chutney Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:44:57 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4903 [...] Still drawing from Schreiter’s book on Reconciliation, here are seven ways of looking at folks that prevent reconciliation and ubuntu. [...] [...] Still drawing from Schreiter’s book on Reconciliation, here are seven ways of looking at folks that prevent reconciliation and ubuntu. [...]

]]> By: h sofia http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4426 h sofia Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:13:34 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4426 Very nice. Very nice.

]]> By: mark walter http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4298 mark walter Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:46:54 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4298 I agree... it's all about the who. I agree… it’s all about the who.

]]> By: chutney http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4296 chutney Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:38:33 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4296 Mark, It isn't <em>what</em> the world needs. It's <em>who</em>. That guy across the table? He needs you. And, more to the point, you need him. Ubuntu isn't social work. And it isn't community organizing either. Mark,

It isn’t what the world needs. It’s who. That guy across the table? He needs you. And, more to the point, you need him.

Ubuntu isn’t social work. And it isn’t community organizing either.

]]> By: mark walter http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4295 mark walter Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:41:17 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4295 When we think about what the world needs, it is nearly always better to step back from the loftiest ideals and take a practical, everyday approach. It is certainly much more personalized when we target helping the person sitting across from us, versus the unseen millions on the other side of the planet. Now that I am sitting down with the guy across from me. what is 'it' that he really needs? And who has the qualifications to actually deliver it? When we think about what the world needs, it is nearly always better to step back from the loftiest ideals and take a practical, everyday approach. It is certainly much more personalized when we target helping the person sitting across from us, versus the unseen millions on the other side of the planet.

Now that I am sitting down with the guy across from me. what is ‘it’ that he really needs? And who has the qualifications to actually deliver it?

]]> By: chutney http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4293 chutney Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:20:13 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4293 Yes, STD, dead on. (What a delightful acronym you have!) Yes, STD, dead on. (What a delightful acronym you have!)

]]> By: Is ubuntu enough? at Making Chutney http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4292 Is ubuntu enough? at Making Chutney Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:18:45 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4292 [...] Contact « Becoming the people the world needs [...] [...] Contact « Becoming the people the world needs [...]

]]> By: Silver Tongued Devil http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4291 Silver Tongued Devil Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:56:53 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4291 Yes, Yes Yes! I have been waiting for you to post this. It has been rolling around in your head for a while. Thank you for the lucid way that you frame it. Now to the question of cultivating Ibuntu in service of the other and in terms of liturgy and spiritual discipline that keeps us grounded in practice that ponts toward the cultivation of Ubuntu. This could scare the shit out of some folks. Cultivation of a community that lives this doesn't begin with the knowledge that I am a good liberal therefore the world needs me. Instead, I think, it begins with the notion that I am a person therefore I have need of other people. Am I right about this? Anyway, good post! Yes, Yes Yes! I have been waiting for you to post this. It has been rolling around in your head for a while. Thank you for the lucid way that you frame it.

Now to the question of cultivating Ibuntu in service of the other and in terms of liturgy and spiritual discipline that keeps us grounded in practice that ponts toward the cultivation of Ubuntu.

This could scare the shit out of some folks. Cultivation of a community that lives this doesn’t begin with the knowledge that I am a good liberal therefore the world needs me. Instead, I think, it begins with the notion that I am a person therefore I have need of other people. Am I right about this?

Anyway, good post!

]]> By: James http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4269 James Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:54:34 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4269 So you're saying we should get rid of Windows and Mac OS and put Linux on our computers? I'm fine with that. ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution) So you’re saying we should get rid of Windows and Mac OS and put Linux on our computers? I’m fine with that. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution)

]]> By: ck http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-4268 ck Wed, 11 Oct 2006 02:25:27 +0000 http://www.makingchutney.com/2006/10/10/becoming-the-people-the-world-needs/#comment-4268 I had a conversation with a doctor a few days ago who was concerned because he didn't "love people" anymore. I asked him if he still enjoyed the interaction he has with individuals in his care, whether he loves the person in front of him. Sure, of course. Well, then, you do love people, I said--in the way that matters. It's just when you round them all up in your mind, as an entity, that they become the ugly mob of rude and immature objects of "health care." When the individual is in front of you, there's always a way to find compassion for them, despite their rudeness and immaturity (or because of it). Next time I talk to him, I'll have to mention the idea of ubuntu. I think that he's in a context where it makes a great deal of sense. I had a conversation with a doctor a few days ago who was concerned because he didn’t “love people” anymore. I asked him if he still enjoyed the interaction he has with individuals in his care, whether he loves the person in front of him. Sure, of course. Well, then, you do love people, I said–in the way that matters.

It’s just when you round them all up in your mind, as an entity, that they become the ugly mob of rude and immature objects of “health care.” When the individual is in front of you, there’s always a way to find compassion for them, despite their rudeness and immaturity (or
because of it).

Next time I talk to him, I’ll have to mention the idea of ubuntu. I think that he’s in a context where it makes a great deal of sense.

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